highlyeccentric: Literature: words that think they are too clever by half. Mostly written by men. (literature (too clever by half))
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If 'fers" is derived from 'fero, ferre', meaning to bear or to carry, I think it's functioning in the same way as "falloir" does in necessity clauses ("il faut que...") in modern French.* And there it is, with ara forming a compound tense! Modern French doesn't do compound futures, does it? But I wouldn't put it past Old French, the bastard.

* ETA: AHAHA. Apparently there is a requirement construction in Latin that uses 'fero'. I WIN.

So we have:

Ja n'i ara fors que t'en fuises

[Then* it will only be necessary that you flee it (me? the situation?).]
*I don't know why I think ja means then, but I do.

And THAT explains why the modern French has translated the clause with *avoir + a + infinitive* and the "fors" has disappeared. NECESSITY CONSTRUCTIONS, THEY CHANGE.

OMG. Efil bloody language. I am so glad I'm taking Latin you guys, this wouldn't have come together if I didn't know fero, ferre.

Also it wouldn't have come together without [profile] tarimanveri explaining modern french grammar to me. Or [personal profile] frith, who put in an impressive go at translating Old French without actually knowing what it *was*. Thanks guys! (Incidentally, Frith, if you ever have an inclination to become a medievalist, I recommend Old French! Many are the students and native speakers of French who can't make head or tail of OF on first sight, you'd do well.)

... for all that, I may have to cut the slide out of the paper. DAMN.

Date: 2010-06-02 12:56 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tarimanveri.livejournal.com
That seems to make good sense for the old French, yay! I'd say avoir+à is a little weird as an expression of necessity in modern French, but what do I know? Presumably the translators know better.

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