Bleh

Jul. 30th, 2008 05:24 pm
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Good thing:

Had my first Old French class today. Mysteriously, only two people showed up. DEAR GOD I HAVE MISSED FRENCH! *Squees to herself*

Bleh things:

1. Too many people. Not that I don't love you, David, or any of the other people I saw today, but apparently human interaction, especially with people who don't see me every day, is kinda exhuasting.

2. One of said persons was a friend from church. Thus, er, it was necessary to actually say to someone why it is that I'm no longer attending church. This was not as bad as expected- said friend was entirely unphased by the pronouncement that my faith had disappeared. She sorta shrugged and said 'well, maybe it's on holiday', and I conceded that this may be true. THEN, however, she was like 'you could come to church anyway, it's about the community', and I had to answer that I've never felt at home in that community. Which, when you've been there for three and a bit years, feels like betrayal.

3. Couldn't find all the editions I need for OF class. However, the ones I could find cleaned out my bank account and then I remembered that I haven't transferred my money from Money Storage Account to Using Account, it therefore won't turn up in Using Account until Friday. And I RSVPed for CMS dinner on thursday night. I SUCK.

Date: 2008-07-30 08:02 am (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] rymenhild.livejournal.com
I hate how expensive good editions of texts in dead languages are.

I don't know whether you're reading Insular or Continental French (although the fact that you call it OF suggests Continental), but I'm going to link the Anglo-Norman Dictionary (http://www.anglo-norman.net/) to you anyway. It's online, it's searchable, it's the cutting edge of scholarship (I believe it went up on the Web about two years ago) and it does provide continental spelling variants as well as insular ones.

Date: 2008-07-30 08:08 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] highlyeccentric.livejournal.com
Continental at the moment- Roland, Chevalier au Lion, and Renart.

Also, whee, thanks for the dictionary :D

Date: 2008-07-30 08:24 am (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] rymenhild.livejournal.com
I'll grant you the other two, but the Oxford MS of Roland is insular! Just because the French want to claim Roland as their most authentically French culture hero...

sorry, I've been trained by Anglo-Normanists and will shut up now.

Date: 2008-07-30 09:42 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] highlyeccentric.livejournal.com
true. this is a thing which I did in fact know.

Date: 2008-07-30 10:57 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kishnevi.livejournal.com
Wasn't he Count of Brittany and therefore REALLY a Celt and not Frankish at all?

Date: 2008-07-30 01:09 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tarimanveri.livejournal.com
I can't help sticking my nose in re: Roland and Brittany (I'm doing research that more or less has to do with ethnic identity in post-Carolingian, pre-Angevin Brittany and it's EATEN MY BRAIN). As (likely fictional) count of Brittany, it was unlikely Roland was "Celtic." Carolingian rule in Brittany, such as it was, generally involved Frankish aristocrats. Moreover, there wasn't much Carolingian contact with Brittany until Louis the Pious and especially Charles the Bald. Plus, the Carolingian counts of Brittany/the Breton marches were just as into the crazy family/succession/territorial politics as everyone else in Neustria (as for that matter, were the "native" Bretons), so considerations of "Celtic," "Frankish," etc. were really secondary (Hopefully I'm not butchering Julia H. M. Smith too much here).

Later on, there were native Breton comital/ducal dynasties, who were, as far as I can tell, increasingly bilingual and bicultural.

The names Roland and Olivier were fairly popular in Brittany in the twelfth century, though. Roland de Dinan, for instance, was a big deal in Henry II's rule in Brittany.

/sticking my nose in.

Date: 2008-07-30 09:12 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] goblinpaladin.livejournal.com
You can un-RSVP, y'know. :P

Date: 2008-07-30 01:17 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tarimanveri.livejournal.com
I was going to ask you what you were reading, but I see you've answered in your comment to [livejournal.com profile] rymenhild. Yay for Le Chevalier au Lion! I think it's by far the most fun of Chrétien's romances... but of course, you probably knew that.

Are you looking for serious scholarly editions? Mostly what I've used are French paperback editions, which I'm told usually feature well-edited texts. You can get paperback editions that have the Old French, usually in facing-page or facing-column modern French translation. I've got an edition of Chrétien (all of him, admittedly) by Livre de Poche (Pochothèque) and a Folio Classique edition of Chanson de Roland. Admittedly, I got Chanson de Roland in France, but I picked up Chrétien (and all the other romances I read last winter) at a foreign bookstore.

Date: 2008-07-30 01:24 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] highlyeccentric.livejournal.com
Lives de Poche and G-Flammerion are the ones we've been set :D I think there's been a delay in the ordering, that's all.

Date: 2008-08-01 03:16 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] highlyeccentric.livejournal.com
also: what happened to that Gawain/Yvain slash, hmm?

Date: 2008-08-01 03:53 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tarimanveri.livejournal.com
There are 212 words of it lurking on my hard drive... and hopefully once I get home and on OFFICIALLY OFFICIAL HOLIDAYS IN THREE DAYS AIR CANADA PERMITTING, I'll have time to hide from the two weeks of visiting Quebec relatives and work on it some more.

Date: 2008-08-01 06:09 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] highlyeccentric.livejournal.com
I awaits it pervertedly!

Date: 2008-07-30 02:37 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] iremos.livejournal.com
*hug*

God, I feel old. I first came to Oz a year ago, but Kerry is coming to visit in two weeks! Squee!

Date: 2008-07-31 01:52 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] highlyeccentric.livejournal.com
squee! indeed!

Date: 2008-08-04 11:13 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] phrasemuffin.livejournal.com
I know you love me, don't worry. But how awesome was it that we got to see each other twice in the same week?! Go Team Us!

I meant to reply to this earlier, but... see my comment (http://kayloulee.livejournal.com/22684.html?view=108188#t108188) on one of Kay's posts.

Also, I am currently listening to Avenue Q. Thought you might like to know :D

Date: 2008-08-10 08:30 am (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
it was being joyous with me at the seeing of you for OERG.
I think perhaps it has not been being so joyous with you at the living and the breathing lately. This is not joyous at me.
you are lovely.
XXpixieeeeeeeeee

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