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[highlyeccentric]

Chretien de Troyes ships Yvain/Gauvain.

Nothing will convince me otherwise.

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[tarimanveri.livejournal.com]

What have I been saying all this time? Do you want to see my paper about how Chretien de Troyes ships Yvain/Gauvain? I mean, it's actually about how he uses Yvain's friendship with Gauvain to explore an alternative construction of masculinity within the generic conventions of romance, but yeah.

[highlyeccentric.livejournal.com]

YES YES I DO.

No, seriously, I do. I wanted to do a paper on something like that, but the set question is on the girls, and I figure that given I have to write the thing in a week and a bit, it's easiest to go with the assigned task. The plan is to talk about the *minor* female characters, like the Catfighting Sisters Who Can't Divide Their Inheritance.

[tarimanveri.livejournal.com]

Well, the Catfighting Sisters Who Can't Divide Their Inheritance are pretty fun too, plus there's the whole Yvain/Gauvain proxy fight... surely you can work that in somehow.

[highlyeccentric.livejournal.com]

I'd like to talk about Lunette and Laudine and the sneaky trick Lunette pulls so that *she* can pick Laudine's husband. Only that's kind of boring, as a paper. So I shall write Lunette/Laudine femslash instead :P

[anachronisma.livejournal.com]

Noooooo, Gawain/Lancelot.

[highlyeccentric.livejournal.com]

Oh, I'm partial to a bit of Gawain/Lancelot, myself. But not so much as Gawain/Bertilak or Gawain/Yvain... Anyway, Lancelot's not IN the Chevalier au Lion, and I haven't read the Knight of the Cart.

[anachronisma.livejournal.com]

It's allllll over Knight of the Cart. seriously.

...we can only conclude that De Troyes was in love with Gawain.

[tarimanveri.livejournal.com]

You bring the femmeslash and I'll bring the slash (and I'll be in Scotland before you?).

If I were to send you a copy of my paper, where would I send it to?

[tarimanveri.livejournal.com]

...we can only conclude that De Troyes was in love with Gawain.

This. This is the answer. Although I still prefer Yvain/Gauvain.

[anachronisma.livejournal.com]

When I finally finish my Lancelot-and-Gawain-OTP-of-friendship I will make you read it.

[tarimanveri.livejournal.com]

When I finish my Yvain/Gauvain post-Chevalier au Lion-reunion slash epic I will make you read it.

More medieval lit fanfic for everyone, yay!

[rymenhild.livejournal.com]

EVERYONE WINS.

Except Laudine, unless she gets it on with Lunette...

[highlyeccentric.livejournal.com]

EVERYONE is in love with Gawain.

And/or Gawain is the stock figure for manly-but-gay.

[highlyeccentric.livejournal.com]

SHE TOTALLY GETS IT ON WITH LUNETTE.

I mean, did you see that sneaky courtly trick Lunette pulled? The one where the woman asks the man to promise her anything and then asks something ridiculous? She pulled it on Laudine. Clearly they are having it off.

[highlyeccentric.livejournal.com]

Has someone told you about kniggit_love yet?

[highlyeccentric.livejournal.com]

oooh *considers* sent it to... nakedphilologist AT gmail DOT com.

while I have your informative self here, do you suppose you know where I could find out about medieval french inheritance law in Chretien's day?

[avedaggio.livejournal.com]

I just noticed that Beowulf and Hygelac must have something going on.

Congrats on your new historical slash obsession.

[highlyeccentric.livejournal.com]

*considers*

Hmm... now, I'm not sure I buy that pairing, but my *supervisor* the other day constructed a legitimate argument for why Beowulf may be gay.

[tarimanveri.livejournal.com]

Haha, and then I took my informative self off to bed, which I suppose wasn't very helpful. I'll think about inheritance law, but the problem is I do the eleventh century and Chrétien lived in the twelfth, and in the intervening Gregorian Reform, things like that either changed drastically or were recorded drastically differently. There's a really good Frederic Cheyette article on anger in Le Chevalier au Lion that's not really related to inheritance but does have to do with dispute settlement that you should read, though. I can't remember the title off the top of my head but I'll convey it to you when I do remember. And I'll keep thinking...

And I'll send the paper...

[tarimanveri.livejournal.com]

... and sent. With article reference.

[highlyeccentric.livejournal.com]

I have the Cheyette article, and a couple on the disinherited sisters. :D And I *think* I may have some place to chase down inheritance law- a friend is bringing me a book, apparently.