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Jul. 14th, 2017 08:52 am
highlyeccentric: Divide by cucumber error: reinstall universe and reboot (Divide by cucumber)
[personal profile] highlyeccentric
I was just thinking yesterday that Auspol had been suspiciously normal, compared to the UK and the US, for at least a week.

NEVER FEAR. Today I woke up to news of:

A: SECRET KIWI IN THE SENATE

and

B: Turnbull's plans to override the laws of mathematics.

I'm not sure what's best about item A: that Scott Ludlam has been an illegitimate senator all this time, or that he DIDN'T REALISE HE WAS A KIWI. He 'didn't realise citizenship followed you like that'. You're a SENATOR, sir.* How many immigration debates have you slept through?

Item B is pure gold and the best motivation I have ever heard for subscribing to a VPN service. Declare your allegiance to the laws of mathematics!

* Wait, no you're not. You've never actually been a Senator. You've just been... in the Senate. A secret Kiwi in the senate.

Date: 2017-07-14 08:20 am (UTC)
kaberett: Overlaid Mars & Venus symbols, with Swiss Army knife tools at other positions around the central circle. (Default)
From: [personal profile] kaberett
THIS IS BEAUTIFUL AND I THANK YOU.

Date: 2017-07-14 10:44 am (UTC)
jamethiel: Ray in profile, slapping his hand to his forehead (facepalmRay)
From: [personal profile] jamethiel
OH AUSTRALIA *Jazz hands*

Date: 2017-07-14 02:53 pm (UTC)
monksandbones: A .gif of the borg, with rotating captions referencing excessive Canadian politeness and bilingual phone menus (canadianborg)
From: [personal profile] monksandbones
Wait, you have to renounce dual citizenship to become an Australian senator? Or are Australians not supposed to have dual citizenship (I may vaguely remember that being a thing for some Australian-Canadian family friends)?

Also, in re secret Kiwi, I laughed, but I also remembered that I dreamed last night that I somehow became an aide or staffer or something similar to US Senator Elizabeth Warren (from Massachusetts! Hearteyes!), and a couple of days into this position remembered that I was Canadian and probably not eligible for it, after which the dream took on an entire CANADIAN IMPOSTER IN THE AMERICAN SENATE dimension. Oh, brain.

Date: 2017-07-14 05:51 pm (UTC)
monksandbones: A .gif of the borg, with rotating captions referencing excessive Canadian politeness and bilingual phone menus (canadianborg)
From: [personal profile] monksandbones
This is fascinating! I don't think members of parliament in Canada have the same requirement. I know it's come up a couple of times when people (generally the Conservative party) have tried to make political grist of other politicians' dual citizenship, but it's generally been of limited effectiveness, and definitely hasn't resulted in anyone renouncing their citizenship or stepping down. Interestingly, in both cases I can remember (former Liberal party leader and foreign affairs minister Stéphane Dion and outgoing NDP leader Tom Mulcair) it's been French citizenship.

That said, the thing that really does take down Canadian politicians, at least when it comes to getting Canadians to vote for them, is ties to the US. If you've spent too long in the US and it looks like you might have liked it, good luck getting elected. Hence one of the long list of reasons I could never succeed in Canadian politics...

Date: 2017-07-15 12:29 pm (UTC)
kayloulee: ST: TOS Spock in an orange jumpsuit like a beekeeper "I am a space beekeeper.I keep space bees" (Default)
From: [personal profile] kayloulee
As I understand it (and I got this from Antony Green, psephologist extraordinaire), you can't be elected to Federal parliament if you are a dual or plural citizen. If you hold plural citizenship, you must either renounce or make all efforts to renounce your other citizenship/s - this is because apparently some countries won't let you renounce citizenship, or make it wildly difficult. Ludlam was born in 1970 in NZ and his family moved to Australia when he was three, and he naturalised as a teenager, which was probably in the mid-1980s.

The situation with Ludlam's Senate seat is now that the WA Greens member with the next-most number of votes, Jordon Steele-John, would theoretically take Scott's seat in the Senate. However, Jordon doesn't necessarily want to take it, which means that he would take it and immediately resign, forming a casual vacancy which the WA Greens could then fill as they saw fit (probably with an internal party ballot? not sure).

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